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If
you haven't heard The GO yet, I envy you. I can remember
hearing the pulsating, bone-rasping opening riff on their
Sub-Pop debut "Whatcha Doin'" like it was yesterday.
It's one of those classic moments in the life of a music
fan. Like what was it was like the first time you ever
heard the Velvet Underground, Iggy & The Stooges,
Thin Lizzy, Black Flag, Dead Kennedys... You felt plugged
in to something beautiful. Something all yours but shared
at the same time. For a repeat of this moment, you continue
the search for that next best band you've never heard.
You go downtown, risking ear, lung and liver damage for
something great. You flip through your friend's collection
between sips of beer, asking, "Who's this?"
That's what is waiting for you. In fact, if you haven't
heard these fellows yet, leave your chair. Find some money,
buy and listen. This interview will still be here when
you get back.
The
Go are from Detroit Michigan. The "garage" capitol
of North America, apparently. Don't let that fool you,
though. These guys are a world away from the White Stripes,
Pirahnas, Clone Defects, etc. Not that these The GO is
above and beyond the aforementioned, mind you. They're
just a world away. They've got their own thing going on.
That is all. They were taken under Sub-Pop's wing, hyped,
and subsequently dropped when they turned in an uncompromising
follow-up album titled "Free Electricity." Now,
they have a new self-titled album out now in Europe via
Lizard
King Records. If you can't wait for the US release,
go to www.thego.info
and download the free MP3s. "Summer's Gonna Be My
Girl," is a favorite of mine.
Bobby
Harlow, the guy who's gritty bari-tenor voice stains the
soundscape of The GO, was kind enough to explain some
things to The Odyssey. Enough of my rambling. On with
the show.
The
last time I heard you were recording anything was before
your departure from Sub Pop. The last time I read anything
about The GO was an interview in Horizontal
Action (ed.
note: I think).
I thought you had broken up until I saw that you were
doing dates with the Greenhornes. Then I stopped by Scratch
Records in Vancouver and stumble across the Capricorn/Growd
Up Wrong 45. What’s been going on all this time?
There
have been some changes in the band. This is a living body
of work. People come and go, record labels do their job
and we continue to write. It doesn't matter. I'm sweating,
it's hot and I'm aggravated. We've toured the US several
times. There's a constant struggle to [live] and write
rather than obey by somebody else's standard of quality
music. In the last several months/years we've been obsessing
over the last record we'll ever make. That's where it
ends up; to write an album so that we can giggle while
we suck each other's dicks for good. Nothing can get in
the way of that process... therefore, we expect resistance
from those who have preconceived notions of what it is
that we ought to be doing. They are band-mates. They are
business men. We are lost in perpetual contemplation of
an infinite glory... hopeless. It's a bit tragic really,
but at least it's [our] chosen tragedy, it's grim. I love
it.
Tell
me about the new album on Lizard King. Is it all newly
written material? Did any of it appear, in any way, shape
or form, on your unreleased album?
No. There are a couple of songs that were written
while we were under Subpop's arrest, but mainly new stuff.
We've recorded everything that we've ever written onto
a 4-track machine as example. Usually the tapes that we
make together at home are much more compelling than those
in a "proper" studio. What we've done with this new album
is record it in London and return home to lay it on a
cassette tape, finish it, and send it off in that state
of lesser quality fidelity. The original recording from
London was more refined... boring. So, we had to intervene
and destroy the pristine craft by littering it with crude
atmosphere. Whatever it takes. In retrospect, we should
have buried the tapes in the dirt and then pissed on them...
dug them up and pressed a million copies of bleached vinyl
in God's care... divine vile vinyl.

I
hope you don’t take offense at this, because I mean it
as a compliment. It seems like you’ve stepped back in
the time machine a couple of years for your latest material.
What I’ve heard from the new album sounds noticeably less
modern than your debut. It might be the cover, but I thought
the Capricorn 45 sounded a bit like the soundtrack to
some long-lost 70s biker movie. I thought it even had
a bit of Davie Allan sound running through it. You’ve
got much more of a classic sound now. Do you care
to talk a bit about where your sound is headed?
You can't offend me. That is, unless you tell me that
you've slept with my girlfriend... and she was the worst
lay you've ever had. Then I'd have to ignore you forever.
Anyway, I don't mind that at all. They're songs. We record
music, simple really. Whatever it may be. We're never
too concerned whether it comes off like a throw-back to
another era where we don't belong. I don't think in those
terms, forget it... it's all retro, new wave, punk, no
wave, garage, blue grass, country, bubble-gum bullshit.
Lately, I've been interested in something that poses a
question rather than bold cliche statements about getting
down into a woman's underwear, I mean, eventually that's
where I'd like to end up in the night... but, until I
settle in, there ought to be a lot of arguing and howling
at the moon, wilds and horrors coming into focus for the
attraction to a careless lifestyle. But anyway... I have
absolutely no regard for modern music. I believe that
we make music new. I write new songs everyday. They are
crap. Ferlinghetti would smother me in my sleep, given
the opportunity I'm sure. On the flip side, sometimes
people come to me and tell me that my songs are wonderful.
Once in a great while I'll listen to one of my own songs
and feel good about it... sorry and detached, or romantic
for the meaning and memory of it's intention. I can't
tell where it's going... I'm glad that you've asked. I'll
put more thought into it maybe. It's not headed down the
tubes, I know that. After all, we do have a responsibility
here. We can't possibly just fuck off all day long until
we turn 90 and die without a clue... can we? JESUS, I'd
better get on that right away! We will make your album
for you... this one could be fantastic... I think it's
the next... I could be wrong... perhaps never. I'm curious.
I think I'm going to die without a clue. I'm still waiting
for some angel to glide down to me and whisper in my ear...
soft, tenderly... trembling hush... rush of blood to my
electric senses... her pale breast at my cheek rests...
delicate touch... her ethereal essence and cool breath
in my imagination... YOU SICK FUCK, COCAINE IS NOT A CREATIVE
DRUG!!!!!!! My God, what have I done with my life? Before
you ascend back to heaven will you please take your top
off? I'm a monster. I need visuals.
Who
is Lizard King Records? It looks like you’re their first
signing. How’d you get hooked up with them?
"This is a boring question. They are English. They've
given us total creative control. We are responsible for
our own actions. You have to ask, I understand. You know
the answer. They like us and we like them, simple really.
I prefer Lizard King to my own family... good people.
Actually, they are deviants. I love them. A good, healthy
lot of engaging bastards. I wish that I was in London
right now.
Lizard
King is a UK label, and naturally, you’ve got a lot of
British press. Do you have a pretty big following in the
UK?
Not yet, I don't know. It's difficult to say. Is there
an audience when we play? Yes. Many people? No. Odd things
happen. A woman handed me a telephone one night while
we were in between songs on stage. I said hello, and there
was an Australian telling me that we ought to travel there
soon. Hmm. We're never in the right place at the right
time. As for London, it's not exactly what I had expected
but I'm not disappointed. And we're never alone in England,
fine women, strong stock... can take a lot of abuse. That's
nice. I sound barbaric. Perhaps I'll wear a helmet on
stage from now on. Actually, they abuse me. That's nice
too.
Do
you know when we can expect a US release of your latest
album? How about a US tour?
We will release the album in August or September. We're
playing a few shows with friends 'The Mooney Suzuki' in
July. We hope to tour extensively with a band called 'The
Witnesses' who we all have a great deal of respect for.
If I can twist Ian's arm enough... hopefully we'll run
around with 'The Scene Creamers'.

Earlier
I brought up your unreleased album, the follow-up to Whatcha
Doin’. I read somewhere that Sub Pop canned it. I’ve talked
to a guy that managed to score a tape of the record, who
can only tell me that it’s “way different.” Can you tell
me a little bit about what it sounds like? Do you think
it will ever see the light of day?
Different. I suppose. It's way too hot here to get
into this. James (guitar player) just turned the fan around
so that we may feel a breeze, unlikely. He's recovering
from a spinal tap... no bullshit. His fluid is low and
he has a headache... we've decided to split his medication.
Go down with the ship, I say. You're referring to an album
called "Free Electricity". We will release everything
that we've ever recorded in the coming year. That will
include an album's worth of home recordings, "Free
Electricity", several 7" singles of back catalogue,
and an EP of the unreleased sessions with Jack White.
All of this and more. The year of 'The GO' ought to be
freakish.
Really?
Will that all be on Lizard King or will it be distributed
around on some other labels? Any special plans for the
packaging or formats?
I can't say right at this moment. Maybe I'm a liar.
We'd like to release a million albums at once... but I'd
gladly settle for one really coherent record. All will
be revealed in time. Cryptic. Har, har.
Did
that album cause the end of your relationship with Sub
Pop, or was it just a contractual thing?
That was it. "Free Electricity" was the
end of a short run. We are impossible to work with if
a label wants to "guide" us. We don't want to listen to
anybody, ever. Don't get me wrong, I take everybody's
opinion into consideration but that doesn't mean just
anybody can have a say in what we do [creatively]. We
didn't belong there. It was a mistake, but they were able
to introduce us to our audience. We'll always be indebted
to them for that. I believe that they have good intentions.
They're alright.
It's
interesting that Sub Pop tried to "guide" you.
I'm guessing that it was because Free Electricity was
deemed too much of a leap from "Whatcha Doin'".
Did you know that they are currently reissuing "Microminiature
Love" by the Michael Yonkers Band? It was originally shelved
by Sire in the 60s. Supposedly for not being commercial
enough.
We'll, I hope that "Free Electricity" turns
up soon. I'd hate to introduce it 30 years from now and
get the blues for my youth. I don't think the live show
would translate well at that point... grey, frail deer
wearing high-heeled shoes, grazing by a graveyard. Hmm.
We ought to sell that one to Ralph Steadman, ha! Grim.
I
hate to ask this, because it’s such an obvious thing to
bring up, but I’d like to know a little more about what
led to the firing of Jack White. The reason I ask is because
I’ve always had a hard time really appreciating the White
Stripes as much as everyone else seems to (ed.
note: I still think they're good, just not as good as
The GO). I felt like he took a step down
from The GO, you know? You guys released one of the best
albums of the 90s.
Jack's my friend. He's a true grit individual. I'm
sure, at times, that he misses dragging around with a
bunch of wild eyed misanthropes... but, such is life.
I know he's doing well for himself and his big sister
Meg. I was never that close with him during our time together
in 'The GO', but now, occasionally we pass notes. He's
the hardest working button to button. Back then we were
relentlessly struggling for identity, still am. There
was a moment where we almost started to sound like 'The
White Stripes', I said no. We were all developing fast
and we were forced to consider the possibilities i.e.,
flirting with Jack's vision or following our own. We couldn't
communicate properly. Everything was a miss. He has a
voice, it ought to be heard... pronounced. Together we
became the fatal flaw (wink); sweet memories for his energy,
but such a struggle. I'm sure that somebody would have
eventually been murdered in a lovers quarrel. Hotcha.
Do
you get sick of the White connection? Do you enjoy the
extra attention it gets for your band? It seems like it’s
a pretty minor footnote in your history, but I can see
where it might be something you can take advantage of
to get people interested in The GO.
No. I never get sick of it. Not much to be sick of.
We are all in connection with this history. Why bother?
It's alive and is as relevant now as it's ever been. I
couldn't possibly imagine how to take advantage. I don't
feel the situation. We could dress in red and white, but
that would be silly. I'll try to think of exactly how
to take advantage and try it maybe. I think that you mean
we could make an attempt at getting famous by way of 'The
White Stripes'... I don't know how that would work exactly.
I don't want to sleep with Madonna (I'm lying). I don't
think she'd enjoy me though. Allen Ginsberg's dead; I
don't want to be famous anymore. I would have asked Jack
to introduce me. No point now, why bother? Larger fish
to fry... I'd like to find a woman with self respect...
perhaps she can spare enough for two. I doubt I'll find
her between the pages of a magazine. I'm in no hurry.
That's my priority. I haven't any interest in a holy grail
for public consumption. I'd rather concentrate on a coherent
album, and love, and dead visionaries that are a bad influence
on my well being.
Maybe
"take advantage" was a bad choice of words. I just mean
that those who look back into what Jack White had done
before might get turned on to The GO if they look back
at what he did previously. I'm guessing when you say that
you don't get sick of his association with the band, that
you can appreciate when a White Stripes fan can get into
your band, correct?
Of course. I understand. We are talking about people
who are open minded enough to allow themselves to appreciate
roots rock music. 'White Stripes' fans, 'GO' fans, people
that love music are our audience. I wouldn't pass judgment
or pick sides. Now, we just did a short tour with Jack
in the UK and, believe me, 2,000 people waiting to hear
their new favorite band are a tough crowd to move. But
when I looked into the audience, I saw young, fresh faces
interested and curious to identify with something unexpected.
4,000 phosphorescent eyeballs gaze toward the stage as
if to say, "Turn me on right now." So there you go, make
a connection with somebody. Let your voice be heard. I
believe that there's an audience for everybody if you're
really serious about your intention. Just reach out and
write from the heart, somebody will listen. Could we possibly
discriminate? I read somewhere that Miles Davis was disappointed
when he realized that a massive Caucasian audience was
turning up for his shows... the quote was probably butchered,
but I was surprised, obviously. Jazz is a religion to
me. Strong emotions are instantly triggered when I listen
to 'Kind Of Blue' and 'On The Corner'. I'm transfixed
on his expression through tradition to fusion... I love
him for that. I want to believe that his delicate, seemingly
otherworldly arrangements express his intuitive, touched
condition, his experience. I believe that I'm a part of
that. Maybe not. Anyway, let's come to an understanding.
I want to relate, as not to feel like a ghost that haunts
a body, but a part of some collective consciousness, where
everybody's always welcome.
It
sounds like you’ve dealt with a lot of weird shit in the
Detroit scene. Your web site mentions fist-fighting the
audience and boycotting by journalists. What happened?
I don't know. We've never had a fist-fight with a
Detroit audience. We know everybody. I wouldn't want to
fist-fight anybody here, they're too tough. I fight small
people who I can overtake easily, mainly women and children,
bury them in the ground, bark at their head-stone. I'll
kick the shit out of a little baby (if I have to). Sometimes
I can fall into a fatalist trap, some introspective pit
of hell and end up provoking the biggest guy in the bar,
usually out of town. These days I prefer to make friends
and get high mainly. Now, journalists don't care for us
sometimes, and I can't care for them usually. Occasionally
I meet a journalist and become friends but it's rare.
It's hard to find a reason to belong to something. Plenty
of journalists or average people, regular people are looking
for a place to file everything that they come across.
They feel the need, naturally, to investigate and (unfortunately)
reduce everything to their basic understanding of the
familiar... what's that for Christ's sake? It's a knee-jerk
reaction and, there you go. It's the same fool that tells
you to "get over it"... I never want to associate with
a person that would tell me to "get over" anything. I'll
never get over anything. I'm still harboring resentment
from birth... my pediatrician was an asshole, cold hands...
thoughtless expressions, so I can't relate to journalists.
Compliments and insults read the same way to me. But,
I'm usually up for the abuse. Just a friendly masochist
at heart. I enjoy confrontation. I like torturing people
when they allow me... one of my favorite functions. Torture
can just go on forever... it never has to end. Both parties
have to release that grip before the suffering subsides.
So torture can give my life texture, the layers that keep
my mind in it's clear spot. So be it for fighting, fucking,
drugs, philosophy, romance and liquor... endless struggle,
uprooting the earth's main vein, get in it's blood...
through the night and into the dawn for an immaculate
madness breakfast, leading to the perfect moment of clarity
where my exclusive reality exists... and it's taken me
twenty seven waking hours, but I'm finally aware that
I love to suffer. So, yes, I guess weird shit happens
all the time, if you want it.
Ok.
Who would you rather share the stage with, Crow
or The
Crazy World of Arthur Brown?
Hawkwind.
Want
to talk about The Go in The Odyssey Forum?
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